We’ll just skip past the point where I left one DVD in Texas, while driving up to St. Louis for vacation, the one DVD I need for tonight. And the part where I started the wrong episode on ABC.com because of their whacked episode numbering system. And the part where I put my self in twitter jail with my beau coup de twits. And just move on to the tweet-cap courtesy of @batchoutlost. From my frazzled seat in my vacay hatch it seemed that LOST WFTB is clicking along just nicely, which is (wait for it) AWESOME, y’all everybody RAWK!
Oh and real quick I had beaucoup de questions about Kate’s silly plane and the amount of effort she puts into submarineing future relationships for the sake of the toy plane. So I asked @KatGirl44 (renowned jater) for her response, and she gracefully supplied a four tweet twessertaion. Which I sum up here for readability:
#LOST #WFTB Tweet-Cap for LOST #112 "Whatever The Case May Be" LiveTweet (read top to bottom) #s1e12It's a talisman for Kate put into a time capsule my the one GOOD man (prior 2 Jack) who loved her. It's also a penance she self-inflicts bc she feels she had a hand in his death. Reminds her of when she had hope and why had hope and why she feels she doesn't deserve hope any longer. IMHO of course.
She went to extremes to get it but Jason was discerning of the double-cross. I loved that she took those idiots down
batchoutlost: Pressing Play
VivaLaSara: Systems are go
batchoutlost: I am SO jealous of that Tree Branch right now :P
ZachsMind: wait do i push play?
VivaLaSara: She has good aim
Sefus: Rate limit exceeded. I imagine it's time. I hit play.
Psifen: Mmmmm let's all jump in the dead body spa! Nothin' like a bath in dead body soup.
VivaLaSara: ZOMG waterfall.
batchoutlost: Sawyer is acting 5 years old. What a wuss! There is a classic "Son Of A Bitch" in this episode (related to the title)
LOST_WFTB: frack a dak and ABC./com wacky numbering.. I'll catch up
Roobadoo87: aww skate flirtiness. I love their waterfall
nyakototo: Gratuitous scene.
VivaLaSara: @Psifen Agreed, I loooove decaying broth
MollyFaraday: hahahah sawyer is so cute protecting her!
Roobadoo87: They really love any opportunity to get Kate half naked. not that I don't appreciate seeing Josh's beautiful body
LOST_WFTB: okay.. NOW I've pressed play sheeeesh @LOST_WFTB
ZachsMind: ok once again I'm running a little behind. Yeah she's got good aim.
batchoutlost: The Waterfall Scene stands out as one of the most fun, beautiful, relaxing...then, well you'll see. Giacchino really likes this scene
MollyFaraday: Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm sawyer!
LOST_WFTB: Oh I wish a were a lost island tree branch, that is what I really want to be.... (to the tune oscar meyer)
VivaLaSara: I see dead people
VivaLaSara: They have water with decaying flesh in their mouths
Psifen: Like takin' candy from a baby, or umm, I mean "Like takin' a wallet from a dead guy."
ZachsMind: They used this waterfall again this season. When Kate and Hurley woke up from Ajira 315
LOST_WFTB: count to 5 kate!
islandscientist: I wonder why they even dove down to begin with.
Tomwilson24: is this where they land in 316?
nyakototo: yuck.
ZachsMind: Of course there's a surprise underneath. Ew.
LOST_WFTB: oh its just sawyer... nvm
nyakototo: @LOST_WFTB *LOL*
MollyFaraday: Fun interaction, drama free, until the bodies....quite disturbing
VivaLaSara: @Tomwilson24 Yeah, that's where some land
batchoutlost: Way too soon for the Zombie Season :) That's not the DeGroots, right? Sawyer's obsessed about that Who Wants to Be A Millionare Case.
nyakototo: @VivaLaSara Oh... that's just lovely. *LOL*
ZachsMind: Anyone count how many times Sawyer takes his shirt off in the series? is it more or less times than Hurley saying dude?
VivaLaSara: It looks like a deal or no deal case
ZachsMind: The CASE! And we have a title ladies and gentlemen!
Roobadoo87: I always wondered why kate didn't wait and go back to get the case on her own
islandscientist: So the entire reason for the drama in this episode is that Kate said Sawyer should take the case instead of saying it was hers?
LOST_WFTB: I think we need to watch that again...
Tomwilson24: oh yeah the toy plane lol
VivaLaSara: @ZachsMind Either way, I'd say he doesn't take his shirt off nearly enough
Roobadoo87: I miss shannon and sexy sexy boone
VivaLaSara: Wow ABC.com would skip right now....
nyakototo: @islandscientist Was it that obvious? *LOL*
LOST_WFTB: Sawyer likes dead people's stuff.. clearly a fetish
islandscientist: This episode always feels weird, because people essentially have to move on after losing Claire. And they can't do anything about it.
Psifen: Yup. Useless.
ZachsMind: You gotta admit, it's a beautiful series. Hawaii's a great place to film.
VivaLaSara: @LOST_WFTB That's a weird fetish...
VivaLaSara: Poor charlie
LOST_WFTB: @LOST_WFTB: @islandscientist she said it was hers just before diving back in, didn't she?
batchoutlost: I hope the Dudes (Dude Count) Win Out. They tapered off in s3-4. Now to flashback to a special model plane
VivaLaSara: @ZachsMind They considered so many different places, glad they chose Hawaii
MollyFaraday: "Is he your new boyfriend?" Gahh Shannon= USELESS
LOST_WFTB: ah.. okay.. don't mind me, I'm only waaaay behind. seems Kate and Sawyer don't like to tell each other the truth... yet.
Roobadoo87: I know its been five years. but god Kate looks like a baby in these eps. So does Sawyer...
nyakototo: It's so wonderful to take advantage of people.
islandscientist: @LOST_WFTB Yeah, and then she changes her mind right after surfacing.
Roobadoo87: I'd love to bicker about positions with Sawyer
Tomwilson24: This ep could spark Shannons downfall
ZachsMind: This thing about stuff washing out to sea was it an excuse to change the look of the scenery? Did they change film locale
VivaLaSara: @MollyFaraday i never liked Shannon, did feel a little bad when she died though....
nyakototo: Stupid gratuitous scene #2.
LOST_WFTB: Jack and Sayid always struggling over where to live... and we keep hearing 'others'. and Sayid's sure he only heard the wind.
nyakototo: @MollyFaraday Very high school that Shannon.
LOST_WFTB: RT @LOST_WFTB: @ZachsMind yeah, they had to change locations and get the wreckage off the beach...
nyakototo: @VivaLaSara I second that.
batchoutlost: Casting Location people for Top Model mistakenly got cast Shannon. She will serve a purpose in the end of the episode, and sing!
LOST_WFTB: one of these tweets i' get the hash tag going.. Shannon is NOT useless, Boone.. she makes for great eye candy. jerk
ZachsMind: Oh Kate U Idiot! why break into his tent? Where's he gonna go? It's a small island. She's so impatient.
Tomwilson24: oh this is the ep where Sawyer can't open the case and Hurley laughs
nyakototo: I do agree Locke.
islandscientist: Michael and Hurley both seem to know enough about Halliburtons to laugh at Sawyer.
LOST_WFTB: this also kinda shows that Kate can hold her own in a long con...
Sefus: I still don't undedstand Kates deal. She's a little scary. I'm gonna have to watch these 8 times. LOL!
Psifen: Someone throw a rock at Charlie please.
nelly061: this is the one where Shannon proclaims being useless and it's proven to be true
Roobadoo87: @LOST_WFTB she def can hold her own in a con. just wish she could see that she doesn't have to most of the time
ZachsMind: "If you pick the lock on a Halliburton I'll strap you to my back and FLY to LA!" I miss Michael!
Roobadoo87: Kate just should have climbed with the case up a tree and waited sawyer out.. he couldn't have gotten up there
LOST_WFTB: Sawyer has collateral now.
batchoutlost: Kate's about to pull a fast one to repay Sawyer. Nyah Nyah
Tomwilson24: You tell him Rose
Sefus: "If you pick the lock on a Halliburton I'll strap you to my back and FLY to LA!" I miss Michael! (via @ZachsMind) LOL
nyakototo: Stupid gratuitous scene #3. Ridiculous.
LOST_WFTB: speaketh of eye candy and eyecandy appears.. thanks shannon.
MollyFaraday: "You better find yourself an island daddyo" hello foreshadowing?
ZachsMind: And Rose hits another one out of the park.
LOST_WFTB: Sayid likes what he sees, he's just after Shannon's french though.
islandscientist: Did we ever see that place where Sawyer threw the case off of again?
MollyFaraday: "physics my ass!" one of the funniest scenes ever
Tomwilson24: I love how after Micheal says impact velocity Sawyer bangs it against a rock lol
nyakototo: Evil.
batchoutlost: And just when we thought Headbutt #2 would be denied... BAM! Then he calls her Sweetheart! He likes rugged, forced love I guess.
LOST_WFTB: its all fun and games until someone loses and eye sawyer... flipping bobby pins
MollyFaraday: i meant runway, not island in my 2nd last tweet btw
nyakototo: If you put your mind to anything Shannon, life could work.
LOST_WFTB: @batchoutlost yeah, it seems skate is all about the kink
Psifen: Sayid... Shannon has a mind? Wtf, I think the island is depleting Sayid's judgement.
DieCer: @Sefus I have to agree. I can't figure Kate out. She's a mystery and that makes her that much sexier. (;
LOST_WFTB: Rose is a force of healing, tough and pragmatic all the time.. love her
Sefus: I don't know how to use a gun. (Kate) haha! What's in true case?!
AliGraysAnatomy: RT @Roobadoo87 I'd love to bicker about positions with Sawyer - haha OMG.... I'm more of a Jack fan but great comment.
LOST_WFTB: we really should be counting the 'son of a b**ch' s versus the dudes...
islandscientist: Didn't Sayid live in Paris? Why doesn't he know some French?
LOST_WFTB: good tackle sawyer .. and the snappy line and the nice headbutt.
islandscientist: Sun now knows about the guns.
Tomwilson24: Kates wearing Black
MollyFaraday: Aaaaand Kate goes running back to Jack.... whats new?.
ZachsMind: good question @islandscientist Either it's a goof, or he does know and he was purposefully playing stupid for some reason
batchoutlost: Oh Sun, you are such a bad actress (the character, at hiding her secret) Although Gun is an international term, I suppose
AliGraysAnatomy: RT @LOST_WFTB we really should be counting ...the dudes... there's a video where someone counted the dudes. :)
Sefus: Guns. In retrospect, probably the best/worst thing to have on this island.
LOST_WFTB: Kate understands physics and things like leverage. RT @MollyFaraday: Aaaaand Kate goes running back to Jack.... whats new?.
VivaLaSara: @ZachsMind They end up being together, Sayid probably liked her then. Oh Sayid, he's such a flirt.
MollyFaraday: awwww Charlie "Maybe I should have died"
nyakototo: Oh yuck. Dead smelly muck. Oh hey, I rhymed.
nyakototo: Just your kind Kate.
VivaLaSara: When did Jack bury him?
Psifen: You got used Jackie boy! DERR!
islandscientist: @VivaLaSara Offscreen.
nyakototo: @VivaLaSara In-between episodes.
MollyFaraday: The fact that Kate would willingly let a man hit her...wow. takes her down alot of notches in my book
ZachsMind: Rose is used so rarely in this series, like a very potent and tasty spice in a gourmet meal.
VivaLaSara: @islandscientist Thanks, I figured I would've remembered that.
nelly061: Kate's plane, PLUS deciphering song lyrics. Who says the show doesnt give any answers?
Tomwilson24: it's shame when they kill off such good characters like the Marshall and keep Shannon
ZachsMind: I think Jack buried him in between episodes, or in one of the Lost Pieces we haven't seen yet. LOL
Psifen: @MollyFaraday Yeah, and all for a stupid toy plane.
nyakototo: Boooooohoooo Shannon. Where's Rose and her bitchslap? Cry me a river Shannon.
nyakototo: Armless Sawyer would still look good. OMG! I am so sick.
batchoutlost: Jack's just vetting his Scooby Gang. Sayid & Shannon: Mmm Blue Infinity "I told you my french sucks!" :) Jack is a horrible liar!
ZachsMind: Sayid's not pretending. He really can't speak french.
Psifen: @nyakototo LOL
MollyFaraday: Sawyer to Jack- "I figured she would get you to do her dirty work"
Sefus: Never smelled a decomposing body. Don't care to. That would really suck if the key actually no there!
nyakototo: Would be pretty badass if I liked her.
Tomwilson24: what a brave bank manager
MollyFaraday: "I hope you got some jaws of life back in cavetown, because thats what its gonna take to pop this bitch!" hahahah
nyakototo: My mouth is on the run too Jack.
ZachsMind: S: "I don't think you could do it." J: "You're wrong." After seeing him work to nuke the island? Now I believe him.
batchoutlost: Are you a Hunter or a Killer, Jack? says Sawyer. "Oh Brother" can't wait for Desmond in 4+ weeks :) Male robber looks like Liam Pace.
AliGraysAnatomy: RT @MollyFaraday The fact that Kate would willingly let a man hit her...wow.- - it's all her game though nothing is that simple.
Roobadoo87: ... The things you do for toys. some people never do grow up. lol.. internet went down, boo. now I'm back
VivaLaSara: @ZachsMind That's what i was thinking, I believe Jack would do anything now.
MollyFaraday: Jack has the worst bedside manner ever.
Psifen: Jack's like "WTF, a toy airplane?!"
Tomwilson24: I wonder if Jason sold his story to the papers after Kate got back??
Sefus: "who are you?" (bank manager) "my name's not Maggie." (Kate)
Psifen: Kate: BLAAARRRGHHHHHHH!!!!!
ZachsMind: Safety Deposit Box number 815
MollyFaraday: Less toy planes more locke!
nyakototo: Croc-co-dile te-ars kate.
Roobadoo87: sorry to shipper this up.. but its stuff like this plane thing that make me believe sawyer is better for kate than jack.
Sefus: LOL! I know right. "it belonged to the man I killed. Aww. Jack's like "WTF, a toy airplane?!" (via @Psifen)
Roobadoo87: I always hated that jack dragged that out of her
nyakototo: @MollyFaraday I third that.
Psifen: *sigh* Again, someone please find some rocks to throw at Charlies head...
Sefus: I always hated that jack dragged that out of her (via @Roobadoo87) me too! Then he walks away all high and mighty like. Pffft!
nyakototo: One second of sympathy for Charlie. Moment of silence.
MollyFaraday: @Roobadoo87 I agree.... Jack lives in his own little world if he thinks making girls cry is okay
nyakototo: I love you Rose.
islandscientist: @Roobadoo87 Similar to how he forced Achara to tattoo him.
Roobadoo87: there's a fine line between denial and faith, its much better on my side. LOVE the charlie and Rose time...
nyakototo: @MollyFaraday It was also uncalled for when he asked to open the case together.
ZachsMind: Vincent! I miss how he used to show up once every other episode at least. Nowadays we see him maybe once or twice a year.
VivaLaSara: Jack, you kinda look like an asshole right now....
MollyFaraday: Charlie and Rose= Great great great great great scene.
nyakototo: Beyond the Sea sounds beautiful in French.
nelly061: Charlie's prayers answered w. mary statues full of heroin
batchoutlost: @Psifen Crackpot Theory: #316 is unleashed because Kate released a Toy Plane's spirit! The First Constant. Did she bring it back?
ZachsMind: One thing people should take into account on this review of the series- Jack is always an asshole. S1 we didn't know.
MollyFaraday: LaMer
MollyFaraday: And she says her french isnt good
restartt: After reading all the tweets, I'm glad I'm missing this eppy. I'm not a big Kate lover.
ccollinsmith: RT @batchoutlost: @Psifen Crackpot Theory:#316 is unleashed bc Kate released a ToyPlane's spirit! 1stConstant.Did she bring it back?
Sefus: I always like the way the eps in s1 end. Music and special moments with the characters and all that. Great show!
batchoutlost: Great how Rose = Hope & Love. She is an island. Pray for Charlie. Is Shannon Singing the music box tune? Leading to a Boomless ending
nyakototo: @batchoutlost HAHAHA! Oh I love that!
ccollinsmith: I really hate Jack in this episode.
ZachsMind: If memory serves, the toy plane pays off in season 2 with "What Kate Did" one of the better KateCentrics.
batchoutlost: well, it wasn't "Inside Man" (Spike Lee Flick), but Inside Woman on THIS bank heist. Kate is so ashamed it seems.
Roobadoo87: @ccollinsmith Agreed. He's a douche in this one
nyakototo: @MollyFaraday I know. It astounds me. I failed French but if I just break out into song, I might just know what I am talking about.
MollyFaraday: Not a really intense ep, But loved every Sawyer scene like usual
ZachsMind: In my opinion this isn't the best KateCentric but it does establish for us she's been riding outside the law awhile now.
jstueve: *sigh* I think I'll just read the tweets... late/fate/kate doesn't want me to live tweet tonight.
Tomwilson24: I think Shannons boyfriend in Franch is related to Danniele
batchoutlost: Let's hear it for the Skin Factor in this episode! *Pats Brow*
ccollinsmith: @ZachsMind Yep. There is a toy plane payoff in s2. Doesn't it also involve a lunchbox purchased by Jacob?
VivaLaSara: Shannon was talking about Finding Nemo right? I think that's the song at the end, but in english
jstueve: I do love Rose's line.. about fate versus hate.. and its much better on fate's side... her prayer here is just perfect.
ccollinsmith: My husband says the fish song was made famous by Bobby Darin.
ZachsMind: ep starts strong Kate/Sawyer but by the end it feels more Kate/Jack but bittersweet. Cuz he's an ass & she's stupid.
AliGraysAnatomy: RT @VivaLaSara Shannon was talking about Finding Nemo right? -- yup in the movie they sing it but not in French lol.
MollyFaraday: One thing on Lost will never change-LYING. happened in s1, up to s5, and it will continue in s6 no doubt
VivaLaSara: @AliGraysAnatomy Sweet! Disney movie knowledge has paid off!
ccollinsmith: @VivaLaSara Kid could have been watching Finding Nemo. Rousseau, of course, got it somewhere else.
batchoutlost: So Sawyer likes scavenging The Dead, Huh? Check out Penn Jillette singing: "Clothes of the Dead" (BongosBass&Bob) http://is.gd/TWJT
ZachsMind: La Mer is the french song. On Finding Nemo the song at the end was really Beyond The Sea covered by Robbie Williams.
VivaLaSara: @MollyFaraday Well, the show is about people, people lie. a lot.
ZachsMind: ...gotta love lostpedia.com =)
Sefus: I agree with most. Probabbly not anyones favorite so but we got part of the Kate story. Can't wait for Wed!
VivaLaSara: @ccollinsmith Good point. Rousseau wasn't around for Finding Nemo...
ZachsMind: I think the writers purposefully didn't have her say "Finding Nemo" so they'd have some poetic license room.
ZachsMind: La Mer dates back to the late 1950s so both Rousseau and that french kid could have heard it from a wealth of sources.
nyakototo: @batchoutlost Intermezzo from Carmen is the song from the music box.
jstueve: I don't think they've ever really answered the why Kate is gaga over that toy plane...
ccollinsmith: @VivaLaSara Song is probably from 50s or 60s if Bobby Darin made it famous.
ZachsMind: It's a well constructed episode I guess, but the real purpose of it is to introduce the guns, which become significant.
MollyFaraday: The Locke/Boone scene with Locke sitting in the sunlight was amazing btw...forgot to say that earlier...glad they atleast had 1 scene
nyakototo: @ZachsMind You want Sawyer with Kate... is this what you are saying? *LOL*
nyakototo: @jstueve It's a brilliant scene. It's like one could actually taste her words in comparison to Charlie's broken mess.
ZachsMind: The toy plane is her only remaining connection to her childhood friend. "Born To Run" explains it more clearly.
ccollinsmith: Okay... here's Beyond the Sea (La Mer), performed by the guy who originally put it on the Billboard Charts - http://bit.ly/d3omZ
ZachsMind: Ah! I was wrong before. The payoff for the plane happens in Born To Run not What Kate Did.
Sefus: @ZachsMind True. The guns are pretty important. Good and bad.
nyakototo: @ZachsMind Agreed.
macbeck: @jstueve I think in a future EP it is revealed that it was one of the items Tom put into their time capsule. I think.
jstueve: since tonight sucked for me and live tweeting LOST I'm shamelessly reposting my Buncker Vacation blog post: http://is.gd/TXpp
jstueve: yeah it is, still why? RT @macbeck I think in a future EP it is revealed that it was one of the items Tom put into their time capsule.
ccollinsmith: @jstueve I'm surprised udon't get the plane. It's the 1 thing that ties her life together. Her innocence. Guilt. Hopes raised/dashed.
jstueve: okay I get that it was Tom's lunch box contrib. But she's pretty much lied to everyone for that keepsake. maybe I'm being too guyish..
nyakototo: @ZachsMind *LMFAO* Brilliant.
VivaLaSara: Well, I'm going to exit this wonderful chat for some reading. Fun time tonight!
ccollinsmith: The toy plane is the one thing I DO understand in this show! :-)
ZachsMind: Wasn't that kid that was w/lil Kate meeting Jacob the same guy she did the time capsule w/& got killed?
nyakototo: @MollyFaraday It was a tease.
jstueve: So for that 'one' thing that ties her life together, she tosses away future opportunities by lying and manipulating? I don't get it.
nyakototo: @ZachsMind I read that it was one and the same.
ccollinsmith: Funny thing about Beyond the Sea performance I posted was he sings (live vamping): "I can't get out of this song." Sounds like LOST!
ZachsMind: @jstueve It's why I say she's an idiot. Kate lies and manipulates and gets nothing for her efforts but pain and misery.
jstueve: Agreed. RT @nyakototo It's a brilliant scene. It's like one could actually taste her words in comparison to Charlie's broken mess.
nyakototo: @jstueve Couldn't have said it better myself. It's rather sick.
jstueve: must be something more? RT @ZachsMind: It's y I say she's an idiot. Kate lies & manip & gets nothing 4 her efforts but pain & misery.
nyakototo: @ZachsMind And sticks her nose in everyone's business and always wants to tag along. She's Blackie in drag.
ZachsMind: Perhaps we learn in S6 what she does has been under Jacob's orders. So like Locke, her actions may have ulterior motives.
jstueve: Maybe @KatGirl44 can 'splain the plane.. she's a jater to the core.. why is that so important to Kate? ?
ZachsMind: I'd rather she just be stupid tho. It's easier to hate her. Remember tho: she claims to have seen the crash.
Sefus: @ZachsMind And sticks her nose in everyone's business and always wants to tag along. She's Blackie in drag. (via @nyakototo) Yes.
nyakototo: @ZachsMind I've had my suspicion about her since the first episode. She's too sneaky... like a snake.
ZachsMind: Kate is the only one who claims to have experienced the entire crash.
Sefus: Kate seems genuinely interested in all the things she asks of people tho Which I why I think she's weird and a little annoying.
ZachsMind: We've never actually seen the plane hit the ground. We seen it break up in mid air, and we saw the aftermath. Not the hit
ZachsMind: Snakes can't run @nyakototo and Kate's all about the running. Maybe she's a gecko or a lizard.
batchoutlost: Since Kate had the "missing scene" with Ben on the Beach in S3, I've suspected she is part of the whole Amenable To Coercion long con
jstueve: RT Since Kate had the "missing scene" with Ben on the Beach, I've suspected she is part of the whole Amenable To Coercion long con
nyakototo: @Sefus Exactly! The only show I've seen that portrayed the Devil as a woman as been #Millennium. Maybe Kate's a snake.
nyakototo: @ZachsMind *LOL* So true. My bad. A chameleon then.
Sefus: @nyakototo ah. Figures LOL. Well it was fun guys. Night!
ZachsMind: If Kate's involved in the Long Con it'd explain why Jacob visited her so young, while visiting Jack so late in his life.
ZachsMind: Well it's been a blast as always. We'll see you guys Wednesday night! Same Bat Time! Same Bat Channel!
